American--And Not Proud Of It . . . . - Page 2

01-03-2005, 01:00 AM

A few weeks ago I boarded the subway to go to work. The car was as full as a usual rush hour.

I was wearing a long scarf with a pattern adapted from the American flag. Someone asked me if I was a Bush supporter.

I asked him why he said that. He replied that it was because my scarf was patterned by the American flag.

I told him that it is not Mr. Bush's personal flag, that it is my flag and it belongs to the nation, not the regime.

Nothing further said.

I am proud to be an American.

Hodor, I have no idea whatsoever as to why your wife would be barred from entering the States for six years after beating cancer, a non-communicable disease. It is revolting to me to know that is true.

Lensman, the battleground is in the mind. When the people see that "strawman issues" like gay marriage destroying marriage (hetero marriage ain't doing so hot, either, is it?) are just a distraction played on them because they are perceived to be narrow-minded dimwits by the perpetrators of the deception, things will change in an organized revolution at the ballot box.

The Declaration of Independence makes this our duty.

As for the Ku Klux Klan, according to the book, "The Invisible Empire", the KKK was founded in a law office in Pulaski, Tennessee in 1865.

Thank you again and a fulfilling New Year to all.

01-03-2005, 02:11 AM

Don't get me started on the bleeding hearts Alexa. The pre requisite to being one is to be totally out of touch with the sentiments of the majority and no working knowledge of how society is travelling as a whole or how to improve it. Grrrr.

Alexa · 01-03-2005, 07:25 AM

We are talking about politicians, right ?

01-03-2005, 11:14 PM

Ever since my daughter was born 17 months ago I've gone from being a liberal to a left wing radical. Well that is how the press and half of America perceive my views under the Bush administration. I don't understand how any American with a child can support an 85+ billion dollar budget to essentially kill and mame thousands of children.

You'd think 9/11 would have been a wake up call. You'd think it would have increased our nation's empathy. Nope, not a chance. I live in the 'liberal' northwest and still see bumper stickers like: "Kill them all and let God sort them out". I have co-workers that say we should nuke the middle east.

Repulsive. Ashamed. Losing faith in humanity.

Of course these same people so eager to exact 9/11 revenge on the children of Iraq are quick to donate to Walmart's tsunami relief fund.

It's because the press shows the dead children from a natural disaster, but the coverage of the war in Iraq is all sanitized and focuses on the American heroes braving the evil Iraqi rebels.

I've had it. And I'm not going to settle for some pathetic Democrat president either. I want a leader. I want a person who has the courage to think like a decent freaking human being and not be a talking head that would have us spend our futures away (trillion dollar deficit) on warfare. THINK about what we are capable of given our wealth. The wake of American foreign diplomacy (I use the term liberally) is nothing short of an atrocity.

I love America, the better half anyway, but I just don't think we'll be around in our current form much longer. All empires fall. And man are we acting like the fool of an empire lately.

Maryjane · 01-04-2005, 01:57 AM

I love America, the better half anyway, but I just don't think we'll be around in our current form much longer. All empires fall. And man are we acting like the fool of an empire lately.[/quote]
Dear D6Veteran,

I am writing on behalf of Maryjane and myself, Paula. I am an American and I posted my feelings last evening under the name of TGirlPaula. As I said then, the Stars and Stripes is not Mr. Bush's flag. it's my flag and it is the nation's flag and that is why I wear it.

Maryjane and I, we are very close. She is Canadian and is visiting with me. I have started the process to immigrate to Canada due to the hateful policies of this regime. For the reason that I have quoted above I shall always be proud to be an American. The president does not speak for me, nor has any president ever done that.

The effects of this regime's foreigh, domestic,and fiscal policies will be felt well into the future generations. Trillion dollar debt...such a huge amount that it exists only as an abstract concept on paper. To put it in perspective, if a person spent $1,000,000,000,000 at the rate of a dollar a second, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week it would take 3,167.8 years to do it.

Excluding debt service, how long will it take to pay that back, I wonder.

I do not believe that Mr. Bush is the "brains" of the outfit. I believe that Mr. Chaney, Karl Rove and Donald Rumsfeld are the "brain trust," and what a mess they have made.

Before soldier #1 entered Iraq Maryjane told me that she sensed that there were no waepons of mass destruction present. I recall that statement very clearly as we discussed the real reasons for the invasion: a grudge match between fools.

Saddam Hussein survived the Gulf war and boasted of it. He also called the president "Little Bush." Two stupid moves compounded by a bunch of stupid, prideful responses, revenge extracted with the lives of others, it makes no sense. How the American people could have elected "Little Bush" is beyond me.

Instead of being the world leader for what is right, decent, honest, good, and useful the sole superpower has taken the hate that has been sown within and spread it abroad.

Dear I feel the hurt in you as I do, such suffering and destruction over stupidity and the massacering of little children, that is the true shameful and sad part of the whole ordeal. Mourn the innocent and curse the offender, not the brave souldiers but the ones who sent them there, may thier souls suffer for their prideful hate and agressionb and their callous disregard for human lives.

Most sincerely,

Maryjane and Paula

McMurphy · 01-05-2005, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Maryjane

Dear D6Veteran,

I am writing on behalf of Maryjane and myself, Paula. I am an American and I posted my feelings last evening under the name of TGirlPaula. As I said then, the Stars and Stripes is not Mr. Bush's flag. it's my flag and it is the nation's flag and that is why I wear it.

Maryjane and I, we are very close. She is Canadian and is visiting with me. I have started the process to immigrate to Canada due to the hateful policies of this regime. For the reason that I have quoted above I shall always be proud to be an American. The president does not speak for me, nor has any president ever done that.

Um, are you migrating to Canada or aren't you? If you are, than---guess what---the star spangled banner isn't your flag anymore. Are you planning to just "weather out" the next four years under this president's administration (note: not regime. We have caps on how long a person can hold office for a reason. By the way, say hello to Britain's Queen and your now local unelected Queen's representatives for me, will you?)? What then? Move back? Why move in the first place in that case? In case America falls during that time? I hope that isn't the reason because the plan suffers from ill logic if one is to believe that Canada would not also fall in the process. A parasite nation cannot live without its host.

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Originally Posted by Maryjane

The effects of this regime's foreigh, domestic,and fiscal policies will be felt well into the future generations. Trillion dollar debt...such a huge amount that it exists only as an abstract concept on paper. To put it in perspective, if a person spent $1,000,000,000,000 at the rate of a dollar a second, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week it would take 3,167.8 years to do it.

Excluding debt service, how long will it take to pay that back, I wonder.

I wonder how long Canada can sustain its over-a-decade economic nose dive (small micro-economic recoveries don't count)? Whatever the answer is, divide it by at least ten if Quebec ever got its foolish and arrogant way and succeeds in toppling the very small majority that last voted to keep the French providence in the English union.

How large of a gap is the exchange rate between the American and Canadian dollar again? I know the Canadian dollar's worth was at a historic low not too long ago. What is the incredibly high percentage that the US dollar account for in all currency being circulated BY Canadian citizens in their home country? Do you feel that there is a cause-and-effect situation involved between the "free" medicare program and the national economic situation? Some things to certainly ponder when one stands out in the cold while waiting in line for an authorization for cough syrup.

I just hope the States don't do something really foolish like taking in the remaining English segment of Canada if Quebec was ever to leave the union. I don't think that would be a debt we could EVER pay off.

Good luck to anyone willing to trade a temporary political puppet for a nation of people satisfied in not having true independence and pledging their identity to Britain's royal figurehead.

Alexa · 01-05-2005, 12:15 PM

You didn't sleep to well, McMurphy, right ?

Quebec will never separate from the rest of Canada. This is only the dream of some politicians and they were always in minority. The Queen is only a symbol. She never interferes in internal affaires.

Yes, we have a lot of businesss with the USA. But keep that in mind as our dollar is lower those from the states find it easier to do bussiness in here.

What do you mean by :

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when one stands out in the cold while waiting in line for an authorization for cough syrup.

?

That one is over the counter.

Now, "the parasite" has to go to work. See you soon.

01-05-2005, 12:43 PM

Dear McMurphy,

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Originally Posted by McMurphy

Um, are you migrating to Canada or aren't you? If you are, than---guess what---the star spangled banner isn't your flag anymore.

You missed the capital letters in Star Spangled Banner. BTW, do you know how many stars are on it?

I don't recall that you have squat to do with who claims the American flag as theirs, not do I believe that you are in charge of who has American citizenship and who doesn't.:-P

Dost thy mouth overload thy butt here, Mr. Secretary?

Are you planning to just "weather out" the next four years under this president's administration (note: not regime. We have caps on how long a person can hold office for a reason.

No kidding, Quiz Kid, and we even manage to hound a man out of office for a breaking and entering charge yet over 1,000 of *our fellow Americans" have come home in body bags, missing limbs, and have shattered lives for what purpose? To make Iraq the 51st state? And which branch of the armed forces did you serve in? Army Ranger? Navy Seal? Marine? Just curious if you ever "took the oath."

By the way, say hello to Britain's Queen and your now local unelected Queen's representatives for me, will you?)?

The Queen is not an acquaintance of mine and the only appointed representative of the Queen is the Governor General. Up there they elect the rest of the government and the Governor General does not interfere with the daily lives of Canadians. If you wish to say hello to her please arrange that yourself.

I am planning to continue to enjoy your buffoonery, McMurphy. BTW, the difference between and administration and a regime is the title of who is on the top. Colonel, general, president-for-life, what's in a title. That's my opinion and opinions are just like, well, you know, and if I count you I have two of them.

What then? Move back? Why move in the first place in that case? In case America falls during that time? I hope that isn't the reason because the plan suffers from ill logic if one is to believe that Canada would not also fall in the process. A parasite nation cannot live without its host.

My, my, aren't we full of McMurphy the Diplomat here, the designer of a new world order, and where did you get your degree in economics? :-P

I wonder how long Canada can sustain its over-a-decade economic nose dive (small micro-economic recoveries don't count)? Whatever the answer is, divide it by at least ten if Quebec ever got its foolish and arrogant way and succeeds in toppling the very small majority that last voted to keep the French providence in the English union.

Je ne suis pas Francais. Je suis American.

How large of a gap is the exchange rate between the American and Canadian dollar again? I know the Canadian dollar's worth was at a historic low not too long ago. What is the incredibly high percentage that the US dollar account for in all currency being circulated BY Canadian citizens in their home country? Do you feel that there is a cause-and-effect situation

I don't do currency conversions as parlor games. Please see www.xe.com for the current rates and trends.

involved between the "free" medicare program and the national economic situation? Some things to certainly ponder when one stands out in the cold while waiting in line for an authorization for cough syrup.

Don't read the grand plan of the regime right now but we (I am an American citizen and you cannot do anything about that :-P!!! We already have medicare and medicaid and fewer people have health insurance now than they did in 2000. Why? Don't reply to me, ask yourself and maybe the regime.

I just hope the States don't do something really foolish like taking in the remaining English segment of Canada if Quebec was ever to leave the union. I don't think that would be a debt we could EVER pay off.

Good luck to anyone willing to trade a temporary political puppet for a nation of people satisfied in not having true independence and pledging their identity to Britain's royal figurehead.

Apparently you did not read my post very well. I shall retain dual citizenship and you can't do a thing about that. :-P!!!!

Thanks for the entertainment.

Maryjane · 01-05-2005, 12:58 PM

I will not get into the political part of this i don't know enough about politics but I will add, who went to clean up the messes after a war in other countries and deliver supplies and material to help rebuild nations struck by national disasters?

Our Canadian Peace Keepers, I am proud of them.

I Love Amarica, I lived there a couple times and still visite there once a year, but I also Love canada.

Hellsheep · 01-05-2005, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McMurphy

Um, are you migrating to Canada or aren't you? If you are, than---guess what---the star spangled banner isn't your flag anymore. Are you planning to just "weather out" the next four years under this president's administration (note: not regime. We have caps on how long a person can hold office for a reason. By the way, say hello to Britain's Queen and your now local unelected Queen's representatives for me, will you?)? What then? Move back? Why move in the first place in that case? In case America falls during that time? I hope that isn't the reason because the plan suffers from ill logic if one is to believe that Canada would not also fall in the process. A parasite nation cannot live without its host.

there is quite a difference between the USA president and the english queen. If the british got an idiot for king, it wouldn't matter, because he hasn't anything to say, the USA president does and he in theory could push the symbolic the "red button".

Don't tell me that you REALLY think the world would need the USA. You haven't anything to offer, except some grain. Microelectronics are produced in the far east, the arabic countries produce the oil and we're capable of making war on our own.

The USA need the rest of the wolrd far more than the world needs the USA. If the far east decided to stop selling you mircoelectronics you would fall. And you would fall even faster if the arabic wouldn't give you any oil. Of course, you could invade those countries, but do you really believe you could defend youself against China?

remember: EVERYONE can be replaced.