Maryjane

Thanks Aftermath I am enjoying our thread. Einstein once said the potentialeties are infinite so who knows, it's just a mater of law of averages and if they did or did not take that left turn at Albequirki. Maybe some of them are still around, watching and observing the growth of their children. In the mean time stand by with your hat in hand, you just may need it when you kneel on one knee and make the grand welcome salute to our grandfathers when they land in Washington Square. For me if it was to realy happen it won't surprise me at all when they come a callin in Washington Square. If anything I would be in a very excited state.


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aftermath

I'd ahve to agree. If an intelligent race actually did help us become what we are and are standing by to see if we evolve anymore than our current state, I'd be thrilled. To meet the race responible for existence as we know it. How would others react? I compare this to something in my life. A parent that left, and you one day finally meet. You may want to run up and embrace them or tear them to shreads for abandoning you. For example a war thorn populcae may want to have them killed for letting such a horrible thing to happen to them when the race had the means to stop this. If there is a race there, I believe they will wait until the planet moves into a global peace. Because otherwise, their return to take their long lost childrem back under their wing may not go so well. .

I think we have come close to depleting this topic... can you think of a new one? I would really enjoy to continue this

Maryjane

I agree with them not making themselves known until the human race has found a way to live in peace and be in harmony with the forces that be. The North Amarican natives called these forces, nature. Doesn't mater to me what it is you want to start a new thread. I'm pretty vercatile in allot of diferent things but scince and astrophysics are my burn. I am studying astro physics from my home. But I sometimes like to meld imagination with theoretical and factual science, factual science is way overated anyway. "Hey" "someone is always moving that star before I can get an accurate fix on it." After tweeking and adjusting the lense on the telescope and you home in on our ilusive star. You then discover that this star has been replicated many times. Circles within circles. Even the cave men drew these symbols of circles within circles, now where did they conceive the idea from. Wana chat about prehistoric ancient ruins or nanotechnolgy now there is a interesting new little piece of technolgy that may obsolete everything electronic and computers we have today and into a whole new era of technology. A wonderous new era where man stands proudly looking up at the grandfathers, peace, love, harmony, kindness and joy to all souls. Boy aint I a dreamer but I pray anyway.



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aftermath

Im game for about anything. I'm not sure how well I can carry them , but i'll try. I never had any type of study in science, or really anything, so I'm making this all up as I go along.

But whatever you want!

Maryjane

Hey you would be surprised at just how much they use of actual scientific theories and terminology in science fiction. Scientificly based Imagination. Especially in the Star Treck series. Even Einstein said that imagination was the mother of invention and that imagination goes light years farther then knowledge and logic. A warp drive engine for instant is just another name for antimater engins which has been a popular idea going in sci fi since I was a kid. Now they have actually come up with a plan through the use of nanotechnolgy to create micro black holes in a containerized unit and using the event horizon for power and propulssion. Within the field of event horison they calculate you would not only travel through space beyond the light speed barier but time as well. Then there is those famous gell packs, containing living mater, bio mater, that produces the energy for the ships sensory and relay systems, like a person's nervous system . they talk about these in the series Voyager. They realy have living microbs that eat oil slicks and other such polutants and they do produce an electrical energy field like tiny electric eels. Now do you get what I mean by using an actual hypothetically and potentially plosible scientific theory in those sci fi movies. When I discovered this, it made the movies even more credible I thought.


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aftermath

well, thats neat


but i came up with a thought! MWHAHAHA! some people say we have souls and that when we die our souls leave our bodies. what if our souls were an alien that that matured inside of us, and when they ar ematured enough, we die and they leave our body to find there home in the stars. maybe thats why people worshiped the stars so much. their 'souls' longed for it.

Frost

Looking up at the stars on a clear night is one of the most beautiful sights on Eath.

Maryjane

As good a theory as any other I have heard of Aftermath. The soul is the essance of awareness and being wether still in the host or after. There are many astrophysiical forces of energy at work out there that are so precicly synchronises with one another that they actually apear to be inteligent in nature and possibly they are in a way at least set up with certain paterns to do certain fiunctions that continue the cycle. When I first heard about cosmic strings was what realy shocked and awed me as to just how harmonicly tuned thei universe is. Our souls could be a part of these forces. The natives called themselves the star childdren and the stars the grandfathers and the earth the mother and the moon the grandmother and the sun the father. They speak of the first mother (giver of life in the Qabala) The North Amarican natives called the soul a spirit and spirits dwelled in many different levels in the afterlife and one could speak to them throught the prayer seremony in the smudging or the smoke from sweet grass that caried their prayers to the after life they believed. I also believe more that they projected their minds into the minds of animal forms not shape shift into one from what I have learned of the spirit ceremonies.To tell the truth no one realy knows with certainty what a soul is.




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Maryjane

The stars on a clear night especially our very own milky way galaxy looks like swirls and eddies of mist as so do other galaxies. These mists are actually billions of stars and and cosmic dust, great dust clouds like the dust being blown ahead of a desert sand storm. cosmic clouds spiraling inward towards the event horizon of a massive black hole, the bright center of a galaxy. Move out of the univers and look back and I bet the entire univers itself would look like a gigantic spiral galaxy. Look around and away from our universe and you would most probably find that there are again as many pin points of light out there like you see in our night sky on a clear night. One could observe the infinite cycle of death and rebirth of univeres as well as galaxies happening everywhere. An infinity of constantly recycled and changing potentialeties in this realety or dimention as well as others. Eternity is full. In the Qabala they say that Aleph created Yod in his image, Aleph couldn't be in one place in a physical form or all else would cease to exist so he created Yod a nearly perfect replica of himsef and through the forces working within Yod. This way Aleph was able to share as one in Yod's own essance. Yod is the realety we live in and then you have the many forces of energy regulating all that is, like souls or spirits of energy They are the couriors, mesangers and maintance workers of the universe as well as being the eyes of Aleph. Everything is recycled nothing goes to waste. Dantie's inferno, Pergatory and heaven mentions many levels in each of those realms, could Dantie have been refering to diferent dimentions in time and space? Each level you go forward in you evolve to a better realety. Cosmic strings are like the harmonics and oscilations of a great orchestration of singing photonic angels filling the infinite firmament with harmony to all that is.



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TGirlPaula

It's interesting how the sum of everything equals zero. Matter cannot be created or destroyed. Same with dissipated energy.

A few weeks ago I read some articles in various newspapers about how big this universe is. Some astronomers had located the very outer fringe of this universe. They said that they saw the first matter to leave the "big bang." All well and good but a mite shortsighted.

If this universe is still expanding, how can one tell? Are the planets in our solar system growing further apart from one another? Is that how we measure where the end of this universe? If the universe is still expanding why has the growth stopped here?

OK, so let's say that the article is correct in that astronomers saw the far edge of this universe and it's still travelling outward. In what is it contained? What is "over the edge?" Is it this universe, Yod, speeding to fulfillment in Aleph?

Just a thought.

Paula